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#26 Le 22/11/2015, à 01:28

Bougron

Re : problemes de mise à jour etc

OK
il faudra alors répondre aux questions par oui  yes    Je pense que le seul caractère y suffit et  peut-être simplement return

sudo umount /dev/sda2  
sudo fsck    -v /dev/sda2 

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#27 Le 22/11/2015, à 01:32

Mimi8

Re : problemes de mise à jour etc

yes

ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo umount /dev/sda2
umount: /dev/sda2: not mounted
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fsck  -v /dev/sda2
fsck from util-linux 2.20.1
e2fsck 1.42.9 (4-Feb-2014)
/dev/sda2 contains a file system with errors, check forced.
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found.  Fix<y>? yes
Inode 9967053 was part of the orphaned inode list.  FIXED.
Inode 9967056 was part of the orphaned inode list.  FIXED.
Deleted inode 9967628 has zero dtime.  Fix<y>? yes
Inode 9967647 was part of the orphaned inode list.  FIXED.
Inode 9973771 was part of the orphaned inode list.  FIXED.
Inode 9973786 was part of the orphaned inode list.  FIXED.
Inode 9973787 was part of the orphaned inode list.  FIXED.
Inode 12191577 was part of the orphaned inode list.  FIXED.
Inode 12193568 was part of the orphaned inode list.  FIXED.
Inode 14811153 was part of the orphaned inode list.  FIXED.
Inode 14811168 was part of the orphaned inode list.  FIXED.
Pass 2: Checking directory structure
Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
Pass 5: Checking group summary information
Block bitmap differences:  -(39890336--39890341) -(39960584--39960598) -(39960607--39960612) -(39973401--39973409) -(48829443--48829448) -48829482 -(48836190--48836197) -(48933391--48933396) -(48933415--48933420)
Fix<y>? yes
Free blocks count wrong for group #1217 (1544, counted=1550).
Fix<y>? yes
Free blocks count wrong for group #1219 (21056, counted=21086).
Fix<y>? yes
Free blocks count wrong for group #1490 (26013, counted=26028).
Fix<y>? yes
Free blocks count wrong for group #1493 (18670, counted=18682).
Fix<y>? yes
Free blocks count wrong (116544916, counted=116544979).
Fix<y>? yes
Inode bitmap differences:  -9967053 -9967056 -9967628 -9967647 -9973771 -(9973786--9973787) -12191577 -12193568 -14811153 -14811168
Fix<y>? yes
Free inodes count wrong for group #1216 (0, counted=4).
Fix<y>? yes
Free inodes count wrong for group #1217 (3242, counted=3245).
Fix<y>? yes
Free inodes count wrong for group #1488 (29, counted=31).
Fix<y>? yes
Free inodes count wrong for group #1808 (8103, counted=8105).
Fix<y>? yes
Free inodes count wrong (29966903, counted=29966914).
Fix<y>? yes

/dev/sda2: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****

      269758 inodes used (0.89%, out of 30236672)
         286 non-contiguous files (0.1%)
         325 non-contiguous directories (0.1%)
             # of inodes with ind/dind/tind blocks: 0/0/0
             Extent depth histogram: 223565/69
     4401197 blocks used (3.64%, out of 120946176)
           0 bad blocks
           1 large file

      178673 regular files
       28836 directories
          57 character device files
          25 block device files
           1 fifo
          26 links
       62153 symbolic links (46029 fast symbolic links)
           4 sockets
------------
      269775 files
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ 

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#28 Le 22/11/2015, à 01:35

Bougron

Re : problemes de mise à jour etc

Il ne te reste plus qu'a booter et voir  si tout remarche bien.

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#29 Le 22/11/2015, à 02:15

Mimi8

Re : problemes de mise à jour etc

et bien désolée mais à part la corbeille qui se vide desormais
j ai les meme problèmes....

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#30 Le 22/11/2015, à 02:30

Bougron

Re : problemes de mise à jour etc

Bonsoir
On va partir sur un grave problème disque qui a été abordé

Tu vas rebooter avec la clé USB
    installer le logiciel de controle

sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu $(lsb_release -sc) universe"
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends smartmontools
sudo smartctl  -s  on /dev/sda
 

Et fournir le résultat de cette commande  que je ne regarderais que  dans la journée car cela va confirmer la prévision de jplemoine.

sudo smartctl  -a   /dev/sda

Puis refaire

sudo umount /dev/sda2  
sudo fsck    -v /dev/sda2 

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#31 Le 22/11/2015, à 03:42

moko138

Re : problemes de mise à jour etc

480 Current_Pending_Sector/secteurs en attente de réallocation, c'est énorme...
Donc, comme dit jplemoine, SAUVEGARDER !


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#32 Le 22/11/2015, à 10:35

Bougron

Re : problemes de mise à jour etc

Bonjour à tous.
J'ai déjà vu ce contexe.

  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       480

Mais il était accompagné d'autres lignes mettant en évidence  que cela ne marchait pas bien!
il n'y avait pas cette  valeur à zéro.

1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000b   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Always       -       0

Je suis tenté de demander de faire une lecture totale du disque pour voir ce qui va se passer.

sudo   dd    if=/dev/sda     of=/dev/null    bs=4096
sudo   smartct    -a   /dev/sda

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#33 Le 22/11/2015, à 12:57

Mimi8

Re : problemes de mise à jour etc

Bonjour

les 2 premieres ;

ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu $(lsb_release -sc) universe"
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get update
Ign cdrom://Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Beta amd64 (20150805) trusty InRelease
Ign cdrom://Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Beta amd64 (20150805) trusty/main Translation-en_US
Ign cdrom://Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Beta amd64 (20150805) trusty/main Translation-en
Ign cdrom://Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Beta amd64 (20150805) trusty/restricted Translation-en_US
Ign cdrom://Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Beta amd64 (20150805) trusty/restricted Translation-en
Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security InRelease [64.4 kB]      
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty InRelease           
Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates InRelease [64.4 kB]
Get:3 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/main amd64 Packages [370 kB]
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty Release.gpg                               
Get:4 http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main amd64 Packages [653 kB]
Get:5 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/restricted amd64 Packages [13.0 kB]
Get:6 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/main Translation-en [201 kB]  
Get:7 http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/restricted Translation-en [3,206 B]
Get:8 http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/restricted amd64 Packages [15.9 kB]
Get:9 http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/main Translation-en [320 kB]    
Get:10 http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates/restricted Translation-en [3,699 B]
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty Release                                   
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main amd64 Packages                       
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted amd64 Packages                 
Get:11 http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe amd64 Packages [5,859 kB]     
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main Translation-en                       
Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted Translation-en                 
Get:12 http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe Translation-en [4,089 kB]     
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main Translation-en_US                    
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/restricted Translation-en_US              
Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe Translation-en_US                
Fetched 11.7 MB in 60s (193 kB/s)                                              
Reading package lists... Done
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ 

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#34 Le 22/11/2015, à 13:00

Mimi8

Re : problemes de mise à jour etc

3 et 4

ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends smartmontools
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Suggested packages:
  gsmartcontrol smart-notifier
Recommended packages:
  mailx mailutils
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  smartmontools
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 203 not upgraded.
Need to get 445 kB of archives.
After this operation, 1,650 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/main smartmontools amd64 6.2+svn3841-1.2 [445 kB]
Fetched 445 kB in 2s (168 kB/s)         
Selecting previously unselected package smartmontools.
(Reading database ... 166627 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../smartmontools_6.2+svn3841-1.2_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking smartmontools (6.2+svn3841-1.2) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.6.7.1-1ubuntu1) ...
Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-16) ...
Setting up smartmontools (6.2+svn3841-1.2) ...
Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-16) ...
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo smartctl -s on /dev/sda
smartctl 6.2 2013-07-26 r3841 [x86_64-linux-3.19.0-25-generic] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF ENABLE/DISABLE COMMANDS SECTION ===
SMART Enabled.

ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ 

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#35 Le 22/11/2015, à 13:02

Mimi8

Re : problemes de mise à jour etc

ensuite

ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda
smartctl 6.2 2013-07-26 r3841 [x86_64-linux-3.19.0-25-generic] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Toshiba 2.5" HDD MQ01ABD...
Device Model:     TOSHIBA MQ01ABD050
Serial Number:    827KSIX2S
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000039 435f81d5b
Firmware Version: AX002J
User Capacity:    500,107,862,016 bytes [500 GB]
Sector Sizes:     512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation Rate:    5400 rpm
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS (minor revision not indicated)
SATA Version is:  SATA 3.0, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is:    Sun Nov 22 11:01:39 2015 UTC
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00)	Offline data collection activity
					was never started.
					Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0)	The previous self-test routine completed
					without error or no self-test has ever 
					been run.
Total time to complete Offline 
data collection: 		(  120) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: 			 (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
					Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
					Suspend Offline collection upon new
					command.
					Offline surface scan supported.
					Self-test supported.
					No Conveyance Self-test supported.
					Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)	Saves SMART data before entering
					power-saving mode.
					Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01)	Error logging supported.
					General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine 
recommended polling time: 	 (   2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: 	 ( 126) minutes.
SCT capabilities: 	       (0x003d)	SCT Status supported.
					SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
					SCT Feature Control supported.
					SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000b   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  2 Throughput_Performance  0x0005   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0027   100   100   001    Pre-fail  Always       -       1041
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       2552
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000b   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0005   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   082   082   000    Old_age   Always       -       7535
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0033   150   100   030    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       2406
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       198
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       166
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   096   096   000    Old_age   Always       -       44759
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       34 (Min/Max 12/51)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       464
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
220 Disk_Shift              0x0002   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
222 Loaded_Hours            0x0032   083   083   000    Old_age   Always       -       6915
223 Load_Retry_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
224 Load_Friction           0x0022   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
226 Load-in_Time            0x0026   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       263
240 Head_Flying_Hours       0x0001   100   100   001    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
ATA Error Count: 1216 (device log contains only the most recent five errors)
	CR = Command Register [HEX]
	FR = Features Register [HEX]
	SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
	SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
	CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
	CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
	DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
	DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
	ER = Error register [HEX]
	ST = Status register [HEX]
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 1216 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 7534 hours (313 days + 22 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 41 50 c0 cb 6c 40  Error: WP at LBA = 0x006ccbc0 = 7130048

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  61 08 68 00 08 10 40 00      00:07:57.590  WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
  61 08 60 00 08 10 40 00      00:07:57.589  WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
  61 08 58 00 08 d4 40 00      00:07:57.589  WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
  60 08 50 c0 cb 6c 40 00      00:07:57.589  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  ef 10 02 00 00 00 a0 00      00:07:57.589  SET FEATURES [Enable SATA feature]

Error 1215 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 7534 hours (313 days + 22 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 41 40 c0 cb 6c 40  Error: WP at LBA = 0x006ccbc0 = 7130048

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  61 98 48 90 63 d4 40 00      00:07:57.503  WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
  60 08 40 c0 cb 6c 40 00      00:07:53.757  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 08 38 b8 cb 6c 40 00      00:07:53.757  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 08 30 b0 cb 6c 40 00      00:07:53.756  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 08 28 a8 cb 6c 40 00      00:07:53.756  READ FPDMA QUEUED

Error 1214 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 7534 hours (313 days + 22 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 41 48 c0 cb 6c 40  Error: UNC at LBA = 0x006ccbc0 = 7130048

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  60 00 50 00 cc 6c 40 00      00:07:53.644  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 00 48 00 cb 6c 40 00      00:07:49.931  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 00 40 00 ca 6c 40 00      00:07:49.930  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 00 38 00 c8 6c 40 00      00:07:49.904  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 08 30 e8 34 18 40 00      00:07:49.815  READ FPDMA QUEUED

Error 1213 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 7532 hours (313 days + 20 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 41 50 80 cb 18 40  Error: UNC at LBA = 0x0018cb80 = 1624960

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  60 20 58 30 6d 19 40 00      00:04:44.824  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 08 50 80 cb 18 40 00      00:04:44.808  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 08 48 50 6d 19 40 00      00:04:44.808  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  ef 10 02 00 00 00 a0 00      00:04:44.808  SET FEATURES [Enable SATA feature]
  27 00 00 00 00 00 e0 00      00:04:44.807  READ NATIVE MAX ADDRESS EXT [OBS-ACS-3]

Error 1212 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 7532 hours (313 days + 20 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 41 30 80 cb 18 40  Error: UNC at LBA = 0x0018cb80 = 1624960

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  60 08 40 50 6d 19 40 00      00:04:41.021  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 08 38 20 8c 17 40 00      00:04:41.016  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 08 30 80 cb 18 40 00      00:04:41.000  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 08 28 70 7f 15 40 00      00:04:41.000  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  ef 10 02 00 00 00 a0 00      00:04:41.000  SET FEATURES [Enable SATA feature]

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
No self-tests have been logged.  [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]


SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
 SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ 

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#36 Le 22/11/2015, à 13:05

Mimi8

Re : problemes de mise à jour etc

puis

ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo umount /dev/sda2
umount: /dev/sda2: not mounted
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fsck -v /dev/sda2
fsck from util-linux 2.20.1
e2fsck 1.42.9 (4-Feb-2014)
/dev/sda2: clean, 269593/30236672 files, 4120805/120946176 blocks
ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ 

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#37 Le 22/11/2015, à 13:12

Mimi8

Re : problemes de mise à jour etc

En tous cas merci a vous de votre disponibilite!
je fais des fautes car j ai le clavier qwerty
il y a peu que j ai ubuntu
ok pas de virus
mais je suis assez decue trop de plantages....

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#38 Le 22/11/2015, à 14:11

Bougron

Re : problemes de mise à jour etc

Je ne comprends pas pourquoi ton disque est redevenu en READ.
le check montre qu'il n'a rien réparé. Donc que le filesystem est correct.

De plus on a une diminution du nombre de secteurs en réparation...

197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       464

la prochaine  fois, commences  à frapper

setxkb,qp fr

Le clavier redeviendra français.

Dernière modification par Bougron (Le 22/11/2015, à 14:13)

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#39 Le 22/11/2015, à 14:15

moko138

Re : problemes de mise à jour etc

Mimi8 a écrit :

je fais des fautes car j ai le clavier qwerty

En graphique, taper au clavier :

setxkb,qp fr

en sorte de lire à l'écran :

setxkbmap fr

  - -

Mimi8 a écrit :

je suis assez decue trop de plantages...

Ben oui : sur un disque détérioré, tu ne peux pas avoir un système sain !
(Sauf le cas très particulier où la zone dégradée est limitée et où on la met délibérément en "zone non allouée").
  - -

Bougron a écrit :

J'ai déjà vu ce contexte.

C'est vrai que c'est inhabituel, d'avoir un "Current_Pending_Sector" en désaccord apparent avec d'autres valeurs à zéro (valeurs d'hier) :

ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000b   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000b   100   100   050    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0033   150   100   030    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0

mais puisque, quelle que soit la cause de cette incohérence, Mimi8 rencontre des problème bien réels, il faut avant tout sauvegarder sur un autre disque ! (ter)

Ce qui n'empêchera pas de faire des investigations ensuite.
Et si c'était le micrologiciel du TOSHIBA MQ01ABD050 qui était défectueux, conduisant à afficher des mesures incohérentes ? En ce cas, on retrouvera sur la toile d'autres occurrences du problème.

Bougron, je vois bien que le nombre de secteurs en attente est descendu de 480 à 464 après fsck. Est-ce pour mesurer cet effet que tu as fait refaire un smartctl à Mimi8 ? Ou pour une autre raison qui m'échappe ?


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#40 Le 22/11/2015, à 14:24

Mimi8

Re : problemes de mise à jour etc

J'avais dèjà essayé de sauvegarder mes fichiers mais ça ne marchait pas non plus ;
mais bon ça fait peu de temps que j'ai Ubuntu et je n'ai pratiquement rien dessus
je n'ai pas encore récupéré mes dossiers qui sont sur un autre disque
donc pas de panique, s'il faut je reformate tout....

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#41 Le 22/11/2015, à 14:29

moko138

Re : problemes de mise à jour etc

Bougron, même en live, mieux vaut

sudo fsck -yfv /dev/sda2 

que
sudo fsck -v /dev/sda2
qui peut rester passif ou, dans le cas d'un HD très dégradé, demander une quasi infinité de confirmations à l'utilisateur (ça m'est arrivé).

  D'autre part, pour hier,

man fsck a écrit :

       -a     Cette option est identique à l'option -p, mais n'existe que pour
              assurer la compatibilité ascendante ; il est donc vivement  sug‐
              géré d'utiliser plutôt l'option -p quand c'est possible.


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#42 Le 22/11/2015, à 16:22

moko138

Re : problemes de mise à jour etc

Mimi8 a écrit :

ça fait peu de temps que j'ai Ubuntu et je n'ai pratiquement rien dessus
(...) mes dossiers qui sont sur un autre disque.

Bon ! smile

Mimi8 a écrit :

pas de panique, s'il faut je reformate tout....

Attention 1 : vois ./viewtopic.php?pid=21035241
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Mimi8 a écrit :

J'avais dèjà essayé de sauvegarder mes fichiers mais ça ne marchait pas non plus ; (...) mes dossiers qui sont sur un autre disque

Attention 2 : vérifie cet autre disque, maintenant que tu sais utiliser smartctl !
Attention 3 : j'espère que tu n'emploies pas "disque" pour "autre partition du même disque". Parce que là, la récupération de tes données serait un problème !


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#43 Le 22/11/2015, à 16:30

Mimi8

Re : problemes de mise à jour etc

nan nan c'est sur un disque externe!

"Attention 2 : vérifie cet autre disque, maintenant que tu sais utiliser smartctl !"

hum je 'ai fait que suivre Bougron...

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#44 Le 22/11/2015, à 17:20

Bougron

Re : problemes de mise à jour etc

moko138 a écrit :

Bougron, même en live, mieux vaut

sudo fsck -yfv /dev/sda2 

que
sudo fsck -v /dev/sda2
qui peut rester passif ou, dans le cas d'un HD très dégradé, demander une quasi infinité de confirmations à l'utilisateur (ça m'est arrivé).
.

Bonjour
Au debut de la journée, il y a eu le message de jplemoine http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.ph … #p21025821
écrit en caractères suffisamment gras,
J'aurais probalement du dire.
+1 Très bonne piste pour le problème....
enfin le soir, lorsque j'ai pris connaissance de l'état smart, j'ai pensé que  les copies avaient  pu se faire sans difficulté et que c'était réparable car au vu du smart j'ai pensé à une coupure électrique..
Il a d'abord fallu trouver le N° de la partition à inspecter.
Lorsque cela a été fait j'ai donné  cette consigne.
http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.ph … #p21031771
puis après celle-ci.
http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.ph … #p21031841
en enfin celle-ci
http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.ph … #p21032011

apres, je pensais que le probleme était réglé
Lorsque cela est revenu  vite, j'ai été un peu surpris
J'ai donc demandé la totale
    Je pensais avoir un smartctl dégradé et non amélioré.
   et un problème semblable sur le disque , donc directement la troisième  solution

Pourquoi je mets l'option  tout simplement c'est qu'elle clairement expliquée et que je ne comprend si la valeur -p est codifiable (sa présentation laisse à penser que non)                               

FSCK(8)                      System Administration                     FSCK(8)



NAME
       fsck - check and repair a Linux filesystem

SYNOPSIS
       fsck  [-lsAVRTMNP]  [-C  [fd]]  [-t fstype] [filesys...]  [--] [fs-spe‐
       cific-options]

DESCRIPTION
       fsck is used to check and optionally repair one or more Linux  filesys‐
       tems.   filesys  can  be  a device name (e.g.  /dev/hdc1, /dev/sdb2), a
       mount point (e.g.  /, /usr, /home), or an ext2 label or UUID  specifier
       (e.g.   UUID=8868abf6-88c5-4a83-98b8-bfc24057f7bd or LABEL=root).  Nor‐
       mally, the fsck program will try to  handle  filesystems  on  different
       physical  disk  drives  in  parallel to reduce the total amount of time
       needed to check all of them.

       If no filesystems are specified on the command line, and the -A  option
       is  not  specified,  fsck  will  default  to  checking  filesystems  in
       /etc/fstab serially.  This is equivalent to the -As options.

       The exit code returned by fsck is the sum of the following conditions:
            0    - No errors
            1    - Filesystem errors corrected
            2    - System should be rebooted
            4    - Filesystem errors left uncorrected
            8    - Operational error
            16   - Usage or syntax error
            32   - Fsck canceled by user request
            128  - Shared-library error
       The exit code returned when multiple filesystems  are  checked  is  the
       bit-wise OR of the exit codes for each filesystem that is checked.

       In  actuality,  fsck  is  simply a front-end for the various filesystem
       checkers (fsck.fstype) available under Linux.  The  filesystem-specific
       checker  is  searched for in /sbin first, then in /etc/fs and /etc, and
       finally in the directories listed in  the  PATH  environment  variable.
       Please  see  the  filesystem-specific  checker manual pages for further
       details.

OPTIONS
       -l     Lock the whole-disk  device  by  an  exclusive  flock(2).   This
              option  can be used with one device only (this means that -A and
              -l are mutually exclusive).  This  option  is  recommended  when
              more  fsck  (8)  instances  are  executed in the same time.  The
              option is ignored when used for multiple  devices  or  for  non-
              rotating disks.  fsck does not lock underlying devices when exe‐
              cuted to check stacked devices (e.g. MD or DM) --  this  feature
              is not implemented yet.

       -s     Serialize  fsck  operations.   This  is  a  good idea if you are
              checking multiple filesystems and the checkers are in an  inter‐
              active  mode.   (Note:  e2fsck(8) runs in an interactive mode by
              default.  To make e2fsck(8) run in a non-interactive  mode,  you
              must  either specify the -p or -a option, if you wish for errors
              to be corrected automatically, or the -n option if you do not.)

       -t fslist
              Specifies the type(s) of filesystem to be checked.  When the  -A
              flag  is  specified,  only  filesystems  that  match  fslist are
              checked.  The fslist parameter  is  a  comma-separated  list  of
              filesystems  and  options specifiers.  All of the filesystems in
              this comma-separated list may be prefixed by a negation operator
              'no'  or  '!',  which  requests  that only those filesystems not
              listed in fslist will be checked.  If none of the filesystems in
              fslist  is  prefixed  by  a  negation  operator, then only those
              listed filesystems will be checked.

              Options  specifiers  may  be  included  in  the  comma-separated
              fslist.   They  must  have  the  format  opts=fs-option.   If an
              options specifier is present, then only filesystems  which  con‐
              tain  fs-option  in their mount options field of /etc/fstab will
              be checked.  If the options specifier is prefixed by a  negation
              operator, then only those filesystems that do not have fs-option
              in their mount options field of /etc/fstab will be checked.

              For example, if opts=ro appears in fslist, then only filesystems
              listed in /etc/fstab with the ro option will be checked.

              For compatibility with Mandrake distributions whose boot scripts
              depend upon an unauthorized UI change to the fsck program, if  a
              filesystem  type of loop is found in fslist, it is treated as if
              opts=loop were specified as an argument to the -t option.

              Normally, the  filesystem  type  is  deduced  by  searching  for
              filesys  in  the  /etc/fstab  file  and  using the corresponding
              entry.  If the type can not be deduced, and there is only a sin‐
              gle  filesystem given as an argument to the -t option, fsck will
              use the specified filesystem type.  If this type is  not  avail‐
              able, then the default filesystem type (currently ext2) is used.

       -A     Walk  through  the /etc/fstab file and try to check all filesys‐
              tems in one run.  This option is typically used from the /etc/rc
              system  initialization  file,  instead  of multiple commands for
              checking a single filesystem.

              The root filesystem will be checked first unless the  -P  option
              is  specified  (see  below).   After  that,  filesystems will be
              checked in the order specified  by  the  fs_passno  (the  sixth)
              field  in  the  /etc/fstab  file.   Filesystems with a fs_passno
              value of 0 are skipped and are not checked at all.   Filesystems
              with  a  fs_passno value of greater than zero will be checked in
              order, with filesystems with the lowest fs_passno  number  being
              checked  first.  If there are multiple filesystems with the same
              pass number, fsck  will  attempt  to  check  them  in  parallel,
              although it will avoid running multiple filesystem checks on the
              same physical disk.

              fsck does not check stacked devices (RAIDs,  dm-crypt,  ...)  in
              parallel    with    any    other    device.    See   below   for
              FSCK_FORCE_ALL_PARALLEL setting.  The /sys filesystem is used to
              detemine dependencies between devices.

              Hence, a very common configuration in /etc/fstab files is to set
              the root filesystem to have a fs_passno value of 1  and  to  set
              all other filesystems to have a fs_passno value of 2.  This will
              allow fsck to automatically run filesystem checkers in  parallel
              if  it  is  advantageous  to do so.  System administrators might
              choose not to use this configuration if they need to avoid  mul‐
              tiple  filesystem checks running in parallel for some reason ---
              for example, if the machine in question is short  on  memory  so
              that excessive paging is a concern.

              fsck  normally does not check whether the device actually exists
              before calling a filesystem specific  checker.   Therefore  non-
              existing devices may cause the system to enter filesystem repair
              mode during boot if the filesystem specific  checker  returns  a
              fatal  error.  The /etc/fstab mount option nofail may be used to
              have fsck skip non-existing devices.  fsck also skips non-exist‐
              ing devices that have the special filesystem type auto

       -C [  fd  ]
              Display  completion/progress  bars for those filesystem checkers
              (currently only for ext2 and ext3) which  support  them.    Fsck
              will  manage  the  filesystem  checkers so that only one of them
              will display a progress bar at a time.  GUI front-ends may spec‐
              ify  a file descriptor fd, in which case the progress bar infor‐
              mation will be sent to that file descriptor.

       -M     Do not check mounted filesystems and return an exit  code  of  0
              for mounted filesystems.

       -N     Don't execute, just show what would be done.

       -P     When  the  -A flag is set, check the root filesystem in parallel
              with the other filesystems.  This is not the safest thing in the
              world  to  do,  since  if the root filesystem is in doubt things
              like the e2fsck(8) executable might be corrupted!   This  option
              is  mainly provided for those sysadmins who don't want to repar‐
              tition the root filesystem to be small  and  compact  (which  is
              really the right solution).

       -R     When  checking  all  filesystems with the -A flag, skip the root
              filesystem.  (This is useful in case  the  root  filesystem  has
              already been mounted read-write.)

       -T     Don't show the title on startup.

       -V     Produce  verbose  output, including all filesystem-specific com‐
              mands that are executed.

       fs-specific-options
              Options which are not understood  by  fsck  are  passed  to  the
              filesystem-specific  checker.   These  arguments  must  not take
              arguments, as there is no way for fsck to be  able  to  properly
              guess which options take arguments and which don't.

              Options  and  arguments  which  follow  the  --  are  treated as
              filesystem-specific options to be passed to the  filesystem-spe‐
              cific checker.

              Please  note  that fsck is not designed to pass arbitrarily com‐
              plicated options to  filesystem-specific  checkers.   If  you're
              doing something complicated, please just execute the filesystem-
              specific checker directly.  If you pass fsck some horribly  com‐
              plicated  options  and  arguments,  and  it  doesn't do what you
              expect, don't bother reporting it as a bug.  You're almost  cer‐
              tainly doing something that you shouldn't be doing with fsck.

       Options  to  different filesystem-specific fsck's are not standardized.
       If in doubt, please consult the man pages  of  the  filesystem-specific
       checker.   Although not guaranteed, the following options are supported
       by most filesystem checkers:

       -a     Automatically repair the filesystem without any  questions  (use
              this  option with caution).  Note that e2fsck(8) supports -a for
              backward compatibility only.  This option is mapped to  e2fsck's
              -p  option  which is safe to use, unlike the -a option that some
              filesystem checkers support.

       -n     For some filesystem-specific checkers, the -n option will  cause
              the fs-specific fsck to avoid attempting to repair any problems,
              but simply report such problems to stdout.  This is however  not
              true  for  all  filesystem-specific  checkers.   In  particular,
              fsck.reiserfs(8) will not report any corruption  if  given  this
              option.  fsck.minix(8) does not support the -n option at all.

       -r     Interactively  repair  the  filesystem  (ask for confirmations).
              Note: It is generally a bad idea to use this option if  multiple
              fsck's  are  being  run  in  parallel.   Also  note that this is
              e2fsck's default behavior; it supports this option for  backward
              compatibility reasons only.

       -y     For  some filesystem-specific checkers, the -y option will cause
              the fs-specific fsck to  always  attempt  to  fix  any  detected
              filesystem corruption automatically.  Sometimes an expert may be
              able to do better driving the fsck manually.  Note that not  all
              filesystem-specific checkers implement this option.  In particu‐
              lar fsck.minix(8) and  fsck.cramfs(8)  do  not  support  the  -y
              option as of this writing.

AUTHOR
       Theodore Ts'o (tytso@mit.edu)

AVAILABILITY
       The  fsck  command  is  part of the util-linux package and is available
       from ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/util-linux/.

FILES
       /etc/fstab.

ENVIRONMENT VARIABLES
       The fsck program's behavior is affected by  the  following  environment
       variables:

       FSCK_FORCE_ALL_PARALLEL
              If  this environment variable is set, fsck will attempt to check
              all of the specified  filesystems  in  parallel,  regardless  of
              whether  the filesystems appear to be on the same device.  (This
              is useful for RAID systems or high-end storage systems  such  as
              those  sold  by  companies  such  as IBM or EMC.)  Note that the
              fs_passno value is still used.

       FSCK_MAX_INST
              This environment variable  will  limit  the  maximum  number  of
              filesystem  checkers  that  can  be  running  at one time.  This
              allows configurations which have a  large  number  of  disks  to
              avoid  fsck starting too many filesystem checkers at once, which
              might overload CPU and memory resources available on the system.
              If this value is zero, then an unlimited number of processes can
              be spawned.  This is currently the default, but future  versions
              of fsck may attempt to automatically determine how many filesys‐
              tem checks can be run based on gathering  accounting  data  from
              the operating system.

       PATH   The  PATH environment variable is used to find filesystem check‐
              ers.  A set of system directories  are  searched  first:  /sbin,
              /sbin/fs.d, /sbin/fs, /etc/fs, and /etc.  Then the set of direc‐
              tories found in the PATH environment are searched.

       FSTAB_FILE
              This environment variable allows  the  system  administrator  to
              override  the  standard  location of the /etc/fstab file.  It is
              also useful for developers who are testing fsck.

SEE ALSO
       fstab(5), mkfs(8), fsck.ext2(8) or fsck.ext3(8)  or  e2fsck(8),  cramf‐
       sck(8),   fsck.minix(8),   fsck.msdos(8),   fsck.jfs(8),   fsck.nfs(8),
       fsck.vfat(8), fsck.xfs(8), fsck.xiafs(8), reiserfsck(8).

Vérifier régulièrement l'état de disques n'est pas un luxe  même si les disque sont externes
mimi8 doit l'avoir compris.

Dernière modification par Bougron (Le 22/11/2015, à 17:34)

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