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#1 Le 19/07/2014, à 11:41

CEDRIK

Dota 2 et Lol (lag , deconnexion et crash)

Bonjour,

Depuis peu, alors que je n'ai fais aucun changement matériel, Dota 2 et Lol (avec Pol) deviennent injouable ... lag monstrueux, déconnections à gogo et crash de l'ordinateur !

Mon ordi est un Dell Precision M4400 avec une carte Nvidia Quadro Fx 770m avec le dernier driver 331.
Avec LinuxMint 17 (Ubuntu 14.04), et c'est peut-être depuis sont installation que les problèmes ont augmenté !
En tous cas avec la version précédente je n'avais pas ces problèmes à outrance.

Le ventilo tourne à fond assez rapidement... serait-ce le processeur qui chauffe trop ? Pourquoi maintenant ? Les jeux sont devenues plus gourmands ?
Ou la version d'Ubuntu installé peut etre la cause ?
Dans Dota 2 j'ai relevé le Ping qui est de 2.000 et monte parfois jusqu'à 20.000 et plus, et c'est à ces moment que le jeu lag le plus.
Les fps reste autour de 10.

Voila si y a besoin de renseignements je donnerai tous ce que je peux....

Merci

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#2 Le 19/07/2014, à 16:41

CEDRIK

Re : Dota 2 et Lol (lag , deconnexion et crash)

Alors j'ai lancé Dota 2 en ligne de commande la voici:

steam steam://rungameid/570
Running Steam on linuxmint 17 64-bit
STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automatically
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1405474565_client)
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1405474565_client)
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1405474565_client)
Fontconfig error: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 70: non-double matrix element
Fontconfig error: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 70: non-double matrix element
Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 78: saw unknown, expected number
[0719/170259:WARNING:proxy_service.cc(958)] PAC support disabled because there is no system implementation
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1405474565_client)
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1405474565_client)
[HTTP Remote Control] HTTP server listening on port 27037.
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1405474565_client)
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1405474565_client)
Process 2688 created /chrysalis-ValveIPCSharedObjects5
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1405474565_client)
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1405474565_client)
Generating new string page texture 2: 48x256, total string texture memory is 49,15 KB
Generating new string page texture 3: 256x256, total string texture memory is 311,30 KB
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1405474565_client)
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1405474565_client)
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1405474565_client)
Adding licenses for the following package(s): 0, 216, 525, 1045, 1549, 1769, 2414, 4176, 4451, 4452, 4912, 6098, 6207, 6749, 6997, 7706, 8041, 8077, 8132, 8186, 8394, 8453, 8555, 8716, 8876, 8878, 11080, 11355, 11611, 11684, 11793, 11819, 11831, 11864, 12129, 12225, 12328, 12456, 12544, 12558, 13054, 13162, 13391, 13422, 13568, 13632, 13670, 13698, 14107, 14176, 14182, 14188, 14695, 14871, 14938, 15136, 15173, 15638, 15940, 16242, 16373, 16560, 16570, 16610, 16615, 16640, 16699, 16805, 17172, 17631, 17641, 18082, 18265, 18485, 18501, 18613, 18619, 18629, 19126, 19223, 25394, 25526, 25597, 25820, 25824, 25940, 26218, 26266, 26358, 26375, 26620, 26836, 27035, 27173, 27227, 27237, 27263, 27276, 27373, 27443, 27693, 27708, 27835, 27968, 28021, 28173, 28315, 28373, 28421, 28515, 28596, 28641, 28662, 28693, 28830, 29074, 29391, 29470, 29547, 29760, 29793, 30170, 30191, 30192, 30202, 30352, 30371, 30477, 30499, 30542, 30735, 30852, 30861, 31017, 32861, 32889, 33061, 33643, 33764, 34137, 34329, 36554, 45611, 47618
roaming config store loaded successfully - 2263 bytes.
migrating temporary roaming config store
Failed to init SteamVR because it isn't installed
ExecCommandLine: "/home/chrysalis/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam steam://rungameid/570"
ExecSteamURL: "steam://rungameid/570"
System startup time: 14,10 seconds
Running Steam on linuxmint 17 64-bit
STEAM_RUNTIME has been set by the user to: /home/chrysalis/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime
ExecCommandLine: "/home/chrysalis/.steam/root/ubuntu12_32/steam steam://open/driverhelperready"
ExecSteamURL: "steam://open/driverhelperready"
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1405474565_client)
Generating new string page texture 69: 128x256, total string texture memory is 442,37 KB
Game update: AppID 570 "Dota 2", ProcID 2776, IP 0.0.0.0:0
ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/chrysalis/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.

(steam:2688): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2688): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2688): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2688): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2688): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2688): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2688): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2688): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2688): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2688): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2688): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2688): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2688): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2688): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2688): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2688): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2688): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2688): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2688): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2688): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2688): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2688): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2688): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

(steam:2688): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/chrysalis/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
pid 2779 != 2778, skipping destruction (fork without exec?)
ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/chrysalis/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32): ignored.
ERROR: ld.so: object '/home/chrysalis/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_64/gameoverlayrenderer.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64): ignored.
Using breakpad crash handler
Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 570
Forcing breakpad minidump interfaces to load
Looking up breakpad interfaces from steamclient
Calling BreakpadMiniDumpSystemInit
Looking up breakpad interfaces from steamclient
Calling BreakpadMiniDumpSystemInit
Steam_SetMinidumpSteamID:  Caching Steam ID:  76561198097102921 [API loaded yes]
Steam_SetMinidumpSteamID:  Setting Steam ID:  76561198097102921
SDL video target is 'x11'
SDL failed to create GL compatibility profile (whichProfile=0!
This system supports the OpenGL extension GL_EXT_framebuffer_object.
This system supports the OpenGL extension GL_EXT_framebuffer_blit.
This system supports the OpenGL extension GL_EXT_framebuffer_multisample.
This system DOES NOT support the OpenGL extension GL_APPLE_fence.
This system supports the OpenGL extension GL_NV_fence.
This system supports the OpenGL extension GL_ARB_sync.
This system supports the OpenGL extension GL_EXT_draw_buffers2.
This system supports the OpenGL extension GL_EXT_bindable_uniform.
This system DOES NOT support the OpenGL extension GL_APPLE_flush_buffer_range.
This system supports the OpenGL extension GL_ARB_map_buffer_range.
This system supports the OpenGL extension GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object.
This system supports the OpenGL extension GL_ARB_occlusion_query.
This system DOES NOT support the OpenGL extension GL_APPLE_texture_range.
This system DOES NOT support the OpenGL extension GL_APPLE_client_storage.
This system DOES NOT support the OpenGL extension GL_ARB_uniform_buffer.
This system supports the OpenGL extension GL_ARB_vertex_array_bgra.
This system supports the OpenGL extension GL_EXT_vertex_array_bgra.
This system supports the OpenGL extension GL_ARB_framebuffer_object.
This system DOES NOT support the OpenGL extension GL_GREMEDY_string_marker.
This system supports the OpenGL extension GL_ARB_debug_output.
This system supports the OpenGL extension GL_EXT_direct_state_access.
This system DOES NOT support the OpenGL extension GL_NV_bindless_texture.
This system DOES NOT support the OpenGL extension GL_AMD_pinned_memory.
This system supports the OpenGL extension GL_EXT_framebuffer_multisample_blit_scaled.
This system supports the OpenGL extension GL_EXT_texture_sRGB_decode.
This system supports the OpenGL extension GL_NVX_gpu_memory_info.
This system DOES NOT support the OpenGL extension GL_ATI_meminfo.
This system supports the OpenGL extension GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc.
This system supports the OpenGL extension GL_EXT_texture_compression_dxt1.
This system DOES NOT support the OpenGL extension GL_ANGLE_texture_compression_dxt3.
This system DOES NOT support the OpenGL extension GL_ANGLE_texture_compression_dxt5.
This system supports the OpenGL extension GLX_EXT_swap_control_tear.
GL_NV_bindless_texture: DISABLED
GL_AMD_pinned_memory: DISABLED
GL_EXT_texture_sRGB_decode: AVAILABLE
GL_NVX_gpu_memory_info: AVAILABLE
GL_ATI_meminfo: UNAVAILABLE
GL_NVX_gpu_memory_info: Total Dedicated: 524288, Total Avail: 524288, Current Avail: 462097
GL_MAX_SAMPLES_EXT: 32
Adding VPK file: /home/chrysalis/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/dota 2 beta/dota/sound_vo_english
Adding VPK file: /home/chrysalis/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/dota 2 beta/dota/pak01
Adding VPK file: /home/chrysalis/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/dota 2 beta/platform/pak01
Did not detect any valid joysticks.
WARNING: unable to link Test_StartScript and Test_StartScript because one or more is a ConCommand.
WARNING: unable to link Test_RandomChance and Test_RandomChance because one or more is a ConCommand.
WARNING: unable to link Test_LoopForNumSeconds and Test_LoopForNumSeconds because one or more is a ConCommand.
WARNING: unable to link Test_Loop and Test_Loop because one or more is a ConCommand.
WARNING: unable to link Test_LoopCount and Test_LoopCount because one or more is a ConCommand.
WARNING: unable to link Test_StartLoop and Test_StartLoop because one or more is a ConCommand.
WARNING: unable to link log_flags and log_flags because one or more is a ConCommand.
WARNING: unable to link log_color and log_color because one or more is a ConCommand.
WARNING: unable to link log_verbosity and log_verbosity because one or more is a ConCommand.
WARNING: unable to link log_level and log_level because one or more is a ConCommand.
WARNING: unable to link log_dumpchannels and log_dumpchannels because one or more is a ConCommand.
Load a scaleform font provider?
Creating D3D9 device with D3DCREATE_MULTITHREADED
IDirect3DDevice9::Create: BackBufWidth: 1280, BackBufHeight: 800, D3DFMT: 3, BackBufCount: 1, MultisampleType: 0, MultisampleQuality: 0
GL sampler object usage: DISABLED

 ##### swap interval = 0     swap limit = 1 #####
Fontconfig error: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 70: non-double matrix element
Fontconfig error: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 70: non-double matrix element
Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/10-scale-bitmap-fonts.conf", line 78: saw unknown, expected number
!! Controller config file passed by steamworks game 570 did not exist at /home/chrysalis/.local/share/Steam/SteamApps/common/dota 2 beta/dota/cfg/controller.vdf
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1405474565_client)
[0719/170509:WARNING:proxy_service.cc(958)] PAC support disabled because there is no system implementation
libpng warning: Interlace handling should be turned on when using png_read_image
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(dota_linux)/version(1.0_client)
Looking up breakpad interfaces from steamclient
Calling BreakpadMiniDumpSystemInit
Steam_SetMinidumpSteamID:  Caching Steam ID:  76561198097102921 [API loaded yes]
Steam_SetMinidumpSteamID:  Setting Steam ID:  76561198097102921
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1405474565_client)
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1405474565_client)
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(1405474565_client)
Precache: Took 85693 ms, Vertex 508, Pixel 10902
ConVarRef dota_fow_disable doesn't point to an existing ConVar
CClientSteamContext logged on = 1
Could not get IReplayDirector interface from library serverGame.dll loaded for "Dota 2"

 ##### CMaterialReference::Init got error material for particle\warp_burst1.vmt in tex group Other textures
 ##### CMaterialReference::Init got error material for  in tex group Other textures
 ##### CMaterialReference::Init got error material for particle\dust\ground_expa.vmt in tex group Other textures
 ##### CMaterialReference::Init got error material for particle\ward_runes_mod.vmt in tex group Other textures
 ##### CMaterialReference::Init got error material for  in tex group Other textures*** ConVar "script_attach_debugger_at_startup" was not unregistered! Shutdown crash imminent!
*** ConVar "script_break_in_native_debugger_on_error" was not unregistered! Shutdown crash imminent!
*** ConVar "dota_ugc_binary" was not unregistered! Shutdown crash imminent!
*** ConVar "dota_postgame_finish_replay_time" was not unregistered! Shutdown crash imminent!
*** ConVar "dota_gamemode_ardm_hero_count" was not unregistered! Shutdown crash imminent!
*** ConVar "dota_gamemode_ability_draft_test_hero" was not unregistered! Shutdown crash imminent!
*** ConVar "camera_datadriven_debug" was not unregistered! Shutdown crash imminent!
Game removed: AppID 570 "Dota 2", ProcID 2781 

(steam:2688): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent.

J'avais la commande "top" ouverte dans un terminal aussi et j'ai pu voir qu'au moment des lags le CPU était aux alentours des 120% et la MEM à 50% pour le jeu !
Sinon sans lag méchant CPU 85% et MEM 45%.

J'ai ces commande au lancement de Dota 2 (option de lancement dans steam) conseillés sur un site pour amélioration des performances:
[-console -novid -noaafonts -high -noforcemaccel -noforcemspd -useforcedmparms -nod3d9ex].

A oui, les fois au le jeu fait crasher l'ordi, ça bloque sur un écran rose...!?

merci

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#3 Le 19/07/2014, à 17:08

abelthorne

Re : Dota 2 et Lol (lag , deconnexion et crash)

Là, je pense que c'est ton GPU qui surchauffe. Est-ce que tu as essayé de mesurer sa température en utilisation normale et en jeu (à lancer en fenêtré) ? Est-ce que ton PC est bien ventilé et nettoyé ?

Note : les options en ligne de commande que tu as trouvées valent certainement pour la version Windows et certaines sont vraisemblablement inutiles pour la version Linux (ne serait-ce que le nod3d9ex).

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#4 Le 20/07/2014, à 15:03

CEDRIK

Re : Dota 2 et Lol (lag , deconnexion et crash)

Alors par exemple le GPU après gravage de 3 Images Iso et quelques minutes de recherches sur le Net me donne  55° c.
En jeu je ne sais pas je le testerai.
Pour qu'il ai plus d’aération j'ai surélevé mon portable sur deux taquets en bois, mais cela n'y fais rien...peut être rajouter un ventilo externe ?
Pour le nettoyage je vais faire un bilan, je l'ai depuis un an et je l'ai jamais nettoyé...

Après avoir regarder tous ça je dirai ce qui se passe !

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#5 Le 20/07/2014, à 16:42

abelthorne

Re : Dota 2 et Lol (lag , deconnexion et crash)

Ça pourrait être utile de passer un coup de bombe nettoyante dans les aérations et le ventilo (PC éteint !). On doit en trouver dans les boutiques qui vendent du matos informatique en pièces (une boutique de quartier, pas la FNAC, quoi).

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#6 Le 21/07/2014, à 12:50

CEDRIK

Re : Dota 2 et Lol (lag , deconnexion et crash)

4 minutes de Dota 2 en fenêtré en 1280 , GPU à 80°c (dans nvidia setting)  ... ça parait comment ?

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#7 Le 21/07/2014, à 14:58

abelthorne

Re : Dota 2 et Lol (lag , deconnexion et crash)

Ça me paraît élevé. Après, je sais que selon les modèles il y a une tolérance plus ou moins forte à la chaleur, mais 80 °C, ça me paraît élevé.

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#8 Le 22/07/2014, à 12:46

CEDRIK

Re : Dota 2 et Lol (lag , deconnexion et crash)

Alors j'ai démonter mon portable du moins l'arrière pour nettoyer le ventilo el l'aération... et ce n'était vraiment pas trop poussiéreux. Je ne pense pas de quoi bloquer la circulation d'air, ou sinon c'est vraiment très sensible.
Je n'ai pas encore essayé de jouer...
Est-ce le GPU qui est en train de lâcher ?
Y a t'il des outils pour le tester ?

L'augmentation de température du Gpu peut-elle venir d'une surchauffe d'autre partie de l'ordi ? Genre Cpu ou autres ?

merci

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#9 Le 22/07/2014, à 13:07

cdjklm

Re : Dota 2 et Lol (lag , deconnexion et crash)

salut,ca ne viendrait pas que ton ordi es plus base pour le travail que pour le jeu ?


version 20.04 sur asus n55sf

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#10 Le 22/07/2014, à 21:52

CEDRIK

Re : Dota 2 et Lol (lag , deconnexion et crash)

Ben si c'est effectivement le cas, j'en suis bien conscient mais pendant 1 an j'ai pu bien jouer qu'en même... alors pourquoi maintenant ça rame !?

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#11 Le 26/07/2014, à 07:50

superpopo

Re : Dota 2 et Lol (lag , deconnexion et crash)

Salut,

il faudrait verifier si ton GPU est bien collé a son ventirad ou si la pâte thermique n est pas trop sèche.

L’idéal c 'est d'enlever le ventirad est de remettre de la pâte avant de refixer le tout, mais c une operation un peu délicate.


Ubuntu 18.04 64 bits
Crucial MX 200 250Go -GYGABYTE GA-990XA-UD3 _wifi - FX 8350 - 16 gb ram - HIS Ice Q turbo X 6950 2 Go
Lenovo E325 sous Lubuntu

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#12 Le 31/07/2014, à 21:28

CEDRIK

Re : Dota 2 et Lol (lag , deconnexion et crash)

merci pour vos infos...

Alors après avoir nettoyer le ventilo (peu sale) et acheté un support ventilateur pas chère le gpu ne monte plus au dessus de 80° et cela ne lag plus pour une partie.
Mais je me demande si cela ne venait pas du réseau car entre temps j'ai déplacer mon ordi et la live box, j'ai moins de longueur de cable...

Pour la manip du Gpu et du ventirad... je n'oserai pas me lancer tout seul...

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