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#1 Le 11/06/2008, à 18:44

link953

Carte netgear et livebox en wifi

Salut à tous et surtout félicitation pour ce super système qu'est ubuntu. Je tenais vraiment à remercier tout ceux qui ont contribuer de près ou de loin a l'élaboration de ce projet de de faire d'un os libre un os viable et accessible.

Mis à part j'ai un souci avec opur le wi-fi. Après nombres de recherches infructueuses et deux semaines de galère, j'ai réussis une fois à me connecter à internet via le wi-fi, mais le reste du temps l'os freeze. Il s'agit d'une carte netgear pcmcia ma521 sur une livebox sagem. L'installation de la carte s'est passée sans soucis ( il suffit de chercher smile ) mais pour la connection, c'est la débandade.

J'aimerais donc un coup de main pour pouvoir me connecter avec une clé wep ou wpa peu importe, mais que je puisse surfer et aussi que la connection reprenne toute seule au redémarrage de la machine si possible, s'il vous plai.

Je sais que nombres de sujets on été crée mais je ne trouve rien pour ma carte au sujet de freeze du kernel sur internet, je suis un nouveau sur linux ça fais un moment que je voulais me lancer mais j'attendais d'avoir une machine rien que pour linux c'est chose faite avec un vieux coucou c'est un hp omnibook 6000 donc si vous pouviez m'expliquer en détail pour que je puisse aider d'autre personne ensuite mais surtout pour comprendre ce que je fais cela serais génial.

Je vous remercie par avance et encore bravo.

 DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu 
DISTRIB_RELEASE=8.04 
DISTRIB_CODENAME=hardy 
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 8.04" 

Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03) 
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03) 
00:07.0 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02) 
00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) 
00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) 
00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 03) 
00:0a.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1420 PC card Cardbus Controller 
00:0a.1 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1420 PC card Cardbus Controller 
00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c556 Hurricane CardBus [Cyclone] (rev 10) 
00:0b.1 Communication controller: 3Com Corporation Mini PCI 56k Winmodem (rev 10) 
00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1983S Maestro-3i PCI Audio Accelerator 
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x (rev 64) 
06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8180L 802.11b MAC (rev 20) 

 *-network               
       description: Ethernet interface 
       product: 3c556 Hurricane CardBus [Cyclone] 
       vendor: 3Com Corporation 
       physical id: b 
       bus info: pci@0000:00:0b.0 
       logical name: eth0 
       version: 10 
       serial: 00:01:03:88:05:fa 
       size: 10MB/s 
       capacity: 100MB/s 
       width: 32 bits 
       clock: 33MHz 
       capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation 
       configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=3c59x duplex=half latency=80 link=no maxlatency=5 mingnt=10 module=3c59x multicast=yes port=MII speed=10MB/s 
  *-network 
       description: Wireless interface 
       product: RTL8180L 802.11b MAC 
       vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
       physical id: 1 
       bus info: pci@0000:06:00.0 
       logical name: wlan0 
       version: 20 
       serial: 00:09:5b:8b:17:51 
       width: 32 bits 
       clock: 33MHz 
       capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless 
       configuration: broadcast=yes driver=ndiswrapper+netma521 driverversion=1.52+NETGEAR,07/24/2003,5.148.72 latency=64 link=no maxlatency=64 mingnt=32 module=ndiswrapper multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11b 

Module                  Size  Used by 
af_packet              23812  0 
ipv6                  267780  8 
binfmt_misc            12808  1 
rfcomm                 41744  2 
l2cap                  25728  13 rfcomm 
bluetooth              61156  4 rfcomm,l2cap 
ppdev                  10372  0 
speedstep_lib           6532  0 
cpufreq_conservative     8712  0 
cpufreq_stats           7104  0 
cpufreq_userspace       5284  0 
cpufreq_powersave       2688  0 
cpufreq_ondemand        9740  0 
freq_table              5536  2 cpufreq_stats,cpufreq_ondemand 
sbs                    15112  0 
sbshc                   7680  1 sbs 
bay                     6912  0 
dock                   11280  1 bay 
iptable_filter          3840  0 
ip_tables              14820  1 iptable_filter 
x_tables               16132  1 ip_tables 
lp                     12324  0 
joydev                 13120  0 
ndiswrapper           192920  0 
pcmcia                 40876  0 
parport_pc             36260  1 
parport                37832  3 ppdev,lp,parport_pc 
evdev                  13056  6 
snd_maestro3           26660  3 
snd_ac97_codec        101028  1 snd_maestro3 
ac97_bus                3072  1 snd_ac97_codec 
snd_pcm_oss            42144  0 
snd_mixer_oss          17920  1 snd_pcm_oss 
serio_raw               7940  0 
snd_pcm                78596  3 snd_maestro3,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss 
snd_page_alloc         11400  1 snd_pcm 
psmouse                40336  0 
video                  19856  0 
output                  4736  1 video 
battery                14212  0 
container               5632  0 
snd_seq_dummy           4868  0 
ac                      6916  0 
button                  9232  0 
snd_seq_oss            35584  0 
snd_seq_midi            9376  0 
snd_rawmidi            25760  1 snd_seq_midi 
snd_seq_midi_event      8320  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi 
snd_seq                54224  6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event 
pcspkr                  4224  0 
snd_timer              24836  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq 
snd_seq_device          9612  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq 
i2c_piix4               9612  0 
snd                    56996  17 snd_maestro3,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device 
i2c_core               24832  1 i2c_piix4 
yenta_socket           27276  3 
intel_agp              25492  1 
rsrc_nonstatic         13696  1 yenta_socket 
soundcore               8800  1 snd 
agpgart                34760  1 intel_agp 
pcmcia_core            40596  3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic 
shpchp                 34452  0 
pci_hotplug            30880  1 shpchp 
ext3                  136712  1 
jbd                    48404  1 ext3 
mbcache                 9600  1 ext3 
sg                     36880  0 
sr_mod                 17956  0 
cdrom                  37408  1 sr_mod 
sd_mod                 30720  3 
floppy                 59588  0 
3c59x                  46376  0 
mii                     6400  1 3c59x 
ata_piix               19588  2 
ata_generic             8324  0 
pata_acpi               8320  0 
uhci_hcd               27024  0 
libata                159344  3 ata_piix,ata_generic,pata_acpi 
usbcore               146028  3 ndiswrapper,uhci_hcd 
scsi_mod              151436  4 sg,sr_mod,sd_mod,libata 
thermal                16796  0 
processor              36872  2 thermal 
fan                     5636  0 
fbcon                  42912  0 
tileblit                3456  1 fbcon 
font                    9472  1 fbcon 
bitblit                 6784  1 fbcon 
softcursor              3072  1 bitblit 
fuse                   50580  3 

lo        no wireless extensions. 

eth0      no wireless extensions. 
 
wlan0     IEEE 802.11b  ESSID:off/any  
          Mode:Auto  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated   
          Bit Rate:11 Mb/s   Tx-Power:20 dBm   Sensitivity=0/3  
          RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off 
          Power Management:off 
          Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0 
          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0 
          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0 

eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:01:03:88:05:fa  
          UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1 
          Packets reçus:1430 erreurs:0 :0 overruns:0 frame:0 
          TX packets:1136 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:3 
          collisions:1 lg file transmission:1000 
          Octets reçus:1876761 (1.7 MB) Octets transmis:103455 (101.0 KB) 
          Interruption:10 Adresse de base:0x6400 

lo        Link encap:Boucle locale  
          inet adr:127.0.0.1  Masque:255.0.0.0 
          adr inet6: ::1/128 Scope:Hôte 
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1 
          Packets reçus:2374 erreurs:0 :0 overruns:0 frame:0 
          TX packets:2374 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 
          collisions:0 lg file transmission:0 
          Octets reçus:119948 (117.1 KB) Octets transmis:119948 (117.1 KB) 

wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:09:5b:8b:17:51  
          UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1 
          Packets reçus:0 erreurs:0 :0 overruns:0 frame:0 
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 
          collisions:0 lg file transmission:1000 
          Octets reçus:0 (0.0 B) Octets transmis:0 (0.0 B) 
          Interruption:10 Mémoire:2c000000-2c000025 

lo        Interface doesn't support scanning. 

eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning. 

wlan0     Scan completed : 
          Cell 01 - Address: 7E:8E:48:1B:C6:DC 
                    ESSID:"fabiennebertely" 
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b 
                    Mode:Managed 
                    Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) 
                    Quality:75/100  Signal level:-48 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm 
                    Encryption key:on 
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s 
                    Extra:bcn_int=100 
                    Extra:atim=0 
                    IE: WPA Version 1 
                        Group Cipher : TKIP 
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP 
                        Authentication Suites (1) : Proprietary 
          Cell 02 - Address: 7E:8E:48:1B:C6:DD 
                    ESSID:"" 
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b 
                    Mode:Managed 
                    Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) 
                    Quality:76/100  Signal level:-47 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm 
                    Encryption key:on 
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s 
                    Extra:bcn_int=100 
                    Extra:atim=61489 
          Cell 03 - Address: 7E:8E:48:1B:C6:DE 
                    ESSID:"" 
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b 
                    Mode:Managed 
                    Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) 
                    Quality:75/100  Signal level:-48 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm 
                    Encryption key:on 
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s 
                    Extra:bcn_int=100 
                    Extra:atim=62174 
                    IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1 
                        Group Cipher : CCMP 
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : CCMP 
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK 
          Cell 04 - Address: 7E:8E:48:1B:C6:DF 
                    ESSID:"freephonie" 
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b 
                    Mode:Managed 
                    Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) 
                    Quality:75/100  Signal level:-48 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm 
                    Encryption key:on 
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s 
                    Extra:bcn_int=100 
                    Extra:atim=10998 
                    IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1 
                        Group Cipher : CCMP 
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : CCMP 
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK 
          Cell 05 - Address: 4E:E9:61:E4:58:DC 
                    ESSID:"" 
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b 
                    Mode:Managed 
                    Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) 
                    Quality:59/100  Signal level:-58 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm 
                    Encryption key:on 
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s 
                    Extra:bcn_int=100 
                    Extra:atim=0 
                    IE: WPA Version 1 
                        Group Cipher : TKIP 
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP 
                        Authentication Suites (1) : 802.1x 
          Cell 06 - Address: 4E:E9:61:E4:58:DF 
                    ESSID:"freephonie" 
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b 
                    Mode:Managed 
                    Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) 
                    Quality:73/100  Signal level:-49 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm 
                    Encryption key:on 
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s 
                    Extra:bcn_int=100 
                    Extra:atim=27528 
                    IE: WPA Version 1 
                        Group Cipher : TKIP 
                        Pairwise Ciphers (2) : TKIP CCMP 
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK 
          Cell 07 - Address: BA:97:2B:14:1F:96 
                    ESSID:"" 
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b 
                    Mode:Managed 
                    Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) 
                    Quality:1/100  Signal level:-95 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm 
                    Encryption key:on 
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s 
                    Extra:bcn_int=100 
                    Extra:atim=0 
                    IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1 
                        Group Cipher : CCMP 
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : CCMP 
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK 
          Cell 08 - Address: 00:1A:6B:C7:FE:13 
                    ESSID:"Point maison" 
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b 
                    Mode:Managed 
                    Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) 
                    Quality:79/100  Signal level:-45 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm 
                    Encryption key:on 
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s 
                    Extra:bcn_int=100 
                    Extra:atim=65441 
                    IE: WPA Version 1 
                        Group Cipher : TKIP 
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP 
                        Authentication Suites (1) : 802.1x 
          Cell 09 - Address: 4E:E9:61:E4:58:DD 
                    ESSID:"" 
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b 
                    Mode:Managed 
                    Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) 
                    Quality:62/100  Signal level:-56 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm 
                    Encryption key:on 
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s 
                    Extra:bcn_int=100 
                    Extra:atim=52672 
                    IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1 
                        Group Cipher : CCMP 
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : CCMP 
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK 
          Cell 10 - Address: 4E:E9:61:E4:58:DE 
                    ESSID:"" 
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b 
                    Mode:Managed 
                    Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) 
                    Quality:67/100  Signal level:-53 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm 
                    Encryption key:on 
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s 
                    Extra:bcn_int=100 
                    Extra:atim=25850 
                    IE: WPA Version 1 
                        Group Cipher : TKIP 
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP 
                        Authentication Suites (1) : 802.1x 
          Cell 11 - Address: 22:0D:1A:4E:33:AB 
                    ESSID:"freephonie" 
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b 
                    Mode:Managed 
                    Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) 
                    Quality:53/100  Signal level:-62 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm 
                    Encryption key:on 
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s 
                    Extra:bcn_int=100 
                    Extra:atim=0 
                    IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1 
                        Group Cipher : CCMP 
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : CCMP 
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK 
          Cell 12 - Address: 5E:65:A4:C6:D4:A8 
                    ESSID:"freeboxover" 
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b 
                    Mode:Managed 
                    Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) 
                    Quality:54/100  Signal level:-61 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm 
                    Encryption key:on 
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s 
                    Extra:bcn_int=100 
                    Extra:atim=52349 
                    IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1 
                        Group Cipher : CCMP 
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : CCMP 
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK 
          Cell 13 - Address: 5E:65:A4:C6:D4:A9 
                    ESSID:"" 
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b 
                    Mode:Managed 
                    Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) 
                    Quality:65/100  Signal level:-54 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm 
                    Encryption key:on 
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s 
                    Extra:bcn_int=100 
                    Extra:atim=19382 
                    IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1 
                        Group Cipher : CCMP 
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : CCMP 
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK 
          Cell 14 - Address: 5E:65:A4:C6:D4:AA 
                    ESSID:"" 
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b 
                    Mode:Managed 
                    Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) 
                    Quality:56/100  Signal level:-60 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm 
                    Encryption key:on 
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s 
                    Extra:bcn_int=100 
                    Extra:atim=10138 
                    IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1 
                        Group Cipher : CCMP 
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : CCMP 
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK 
          Cell 15 - Address: 5E:65:A4:C6:D4:AB 
                    ESSID:"freephonie" 
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b 
                    Mode:Managed 
                    Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) 
                    Quality:57/100  Signal level:-59 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm 
                    Encryption key:on 
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s 
                    Extra:bcn_int=100 
                    Extra:atim=0 
                    IE: WPA Version 1 
                        Group Cipher : TKIP 
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP 
                        Authentication Suites (1) : 802.1x 
          Cell 16 - Address: 22:0D:1A:4E:33:AA 
                    ESSID:"" 
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b 
                    Mode:Managed 
                    Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) 
                    Quality:73/100  Signal level:-49 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm 
                    Encryption key:on 
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s 
                    Extra:bcn_int=100 
                    Extra:atim=0 
                    IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1 
                        Group Cipher : CCMP 
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : CCMP 
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK 
          Cell 17 - Address: 22:0D:1A:4E:33:A8 
                    ESSID:"wifi" 
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b 
                    Mode:Managed 
                    Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) 
                    Quality:53/100  Signal level:-62 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm 
                    Encryption key:on 
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s 
                    Extra:bcn_int=100 
                    Extra:atim=49482 
                    IE: WPA Version 1 
                        Group Cipher : TKIP 
                        Pairwise Ciphers (2) : TKIP CCMP 
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK 
          Cell 18 - Address: 22:0D:1A:4E:33:A9 
                    ESSID:"" 
                    Protocol:IEEE 802.11b 
                    Mode:Managed 
                    Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1) 
                    Quality:40/100  Signal level:-70 dBm  Noise level:-96 dBm 
                    Encryption key:on 
                    Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s 
                    Extra:bcn_int=100 
                    Extra:atim=64557 
                    IE: IEEE 802.11i/WPA2 Version 1 
                        Group Cipher : CCMP 
                        Pairwise Ciphers (1) : CCMP 
                        Authentication Suites (1) : PSK 

2.6.24-18-generic i686 

 cat /etc/network/interfaces 
auto lo 
iface lo inet loopback

J'ai poster les codes demandé dans le message. J'avais oublié.

Dernière modification par link953 (Le 11/06/2008, à 19:25)

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#2 Le 12/06/2008, à 22:34

link953

Re : Carte netgear et livebox en wifi

Personne ne sait??

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#3 Le 12/06/2008, à 23:02

awala

Re : Carte netgear et livebox en wifi

bonsoir
pour ta carte il faut utiliser ndiswrapper et les drivers pour windows xp que tu peux récupérer sur le net.

awala


Laptop Toshiba P200-1D0 sous karmic
Laptop Asus eeepc sous jaunty

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#4 Le 12/06/2008, à 23:11

link953

Re : Carte netgear et livebox en wifi

Bonsoir et merci de ton aide. La carte est installé, comme dit dans le premier topic c'est après que ça coince. Je n'arrive pas ou très peu à me connecter sans le freeze du pc.

Dernière modification par link953 (Le 12/06/2008, à 23:13)

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#5 Le 16/06/2008, à 13:34

link953

Re : Carte netgear et livebox en wifi

Up d'aide please

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