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#1 Le 25/02/2006, à 14:01

JasonLi

How to input French accented letters? HELP!

Salut!

J'apprends le français.

However, I can't figure out how to input the accented french letters, especially letters like ê. I am using a DELL Latitude D600 and have set Fra for my keyboard. I know normally you can just hit the [ key in normal 101 usa keyboard and then hit e, but when I do that, I get nothing for hitting [ and only the normal e when hitting e.

Please help me. I really don't want to do the tiring copy and paste work when typing French.

Merci beaucoup!!!

#2 Le 25/02/2006, à 14:08

pabix

Re : How to input French accented letters? HELP!

Whithout a French keybord, it is possible !

Menu System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (Système -> Préférences -> Clavier)

Tab/Onglet : Options de l'agencement
Compose Key position : chose for example Right Ctrl is compose, or Menu is compose (menu is the special Key between Right Alt and Right Ctrl to have related Menu under Ms Windows)

Since then, to have, for example, an ï, type
1. Compose key (and release it)
2. " (and release)
3. i (and release)

To have é : Compose, ', e
to have è : `, e
to have ç : Compose, ,, c
to have œ : Compose, o, e
To have ø (not French but can be useful) : Compose, /, o
To have ¡ : Compose, !, !
To have ê : Compose, >, e
To have ě (difficult) : Compose, <, e
Etc.

That is like a spaghetti plate. Difficult to know it all...

Otherwise you can execute charmap and copy/paste characters.

Bon courage pour apprendre le français !

Benoit

Some other combinations are also useful :
« : <, <
» : >, >
€ : =, e
¥ : =, y
ů : *, u
å : *, a
ķ : ,, k
® : O, R
× : x, x
÷ : -, :
­± : +, -
ñ : ~, n
Etc.

Dernière modification par pabix (Le 25/02/2006, à 14:15)


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#3 Le 25/02/2006, à 14:16

JasonLi

Re : How to input French accented letters? HELP!

Benoit, merci!

Mais je vieux utiliser le keyboard comme les français. C'est possible?
With my current configuration, I can easily input éèçàù by hitting only a single key, it's just that easy. And I want to find the way of inputing the other accented letters, such as ^.

I know that in windows xp, with a french keyboard input method installed, you can simply input that even with a standard 101 usa keyboard by hitting [ + e. I tried to do the same thing in ubuntu, with no success.

The compose key solution is also great, but just not my taste. Anyway, thank you for your advice and I would highly appreciate any advice or comments on this issue.

Thank you for helping a beginner, both in ubuntu and the language of French!:)

#4 Le 25/02/2006, à 14:20

pabix

Re : How to input French accented letters? HELP!

Attention : comme les Français (with a capital letter)
And je veux (not je vieux which would mean I old)

Having a French Keyboard, I don't know; I think that most of the people here don't know the solution for your problem since they have French keyboards. To type â, ê, î, ô, û we just hit the ^" touch, and then the vowel we want an accent with.

Sorry! Try maybe ubuntuforums.org.

Benoit
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Sur Wikipédia : fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pabix

Dernière modification par pabix (Le 25/02/2006, à 14:42)


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#5 Le 25/02/2006, à 15:01

hector

Re : How to input French accented letters? HELP!

JasonLi a écrit :

I know that in windows xp, with a french keyboard input method installed, you can simply input that even with a standard 101 usa keyboard by hitting [ + e. I tried to do the same thing in ubuntu, with no success.

We do exactly the same on ubuntu and it works (except the corresponding pad for" [ "is "^" with french keyboards).Probably the difference between you and us is , we use a native french keyboard  hardware.and the keyboard software for simulating french keyboard misunderstands this.

I had a similar  problem when i wanted to simulate arabic keyboards. It was working for letters but not for numbers, unless it was indicated on the keyboard simulator software.

So i have no solution but wait for big specialists now!

Bon courage pour le français! wink

Dernière modification par hector (Le 25/02/2006, à 15:05)

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#6 Le 25/02/2006, à 15:06

JasonLi

Re : How to input French accented letters? HELP!

Thank you, Benoit.

The ^ key in your keyboard is beside the P key? I looked into the keyboard layout view of the Fra keyboard setting, and the key at the right of P doesn't appear to look like the ^ key.

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#7 Le 25/02/2006, à 15:09

benjou

Re : How to input French accented letters? HELP!

I got a US keyboard

If set on US(intl) (or US_intl), then the keys ', ", `, ~, ^ become "dead keys" allowing me to do the accents É,Ë,È,ñ,Ê respectively.

moreover the ALT key allows some more combinations like ß,å, ø if you plan to learn swedish as well big_smile


écrasons l'infâme

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#8 Le 25/02/2006, à 21:02

GaRgAm

Re : How to input French accented letters? HELP!

hi io:)
To put your Keyboard natively in French do this:

xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.fr

Bonne chance wink

Dernière modification par GaRgAm (Le 25/02/2006, à 21:02)

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#9 Le 26/02/2006, à 09:53

jasonli

Re : How to input French accented letters? HELP!

Oh god, the compose key don't work for me.
I set it up and typed in the address bar of firefox, it works, but after that I tried to type in the gedit window, a compose key + > + e gave out ".e". I restarted and then even in firefox it doesn't work.

Previously I run the command from the terminal as GaRgAm suggested:
xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.fr
and found some problems with that so I executed:
xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us-101

pabix a écrit :

Whithout a French keybord, it is possible !

Menu System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (Système -> Préférences -> Clavier)

Tab/Onglet : Options de l'agencement
Compose Key position : chose for example Right Ctrl is compose, or Menu is compose (menu is the special Key between Right Alt and Right Ctrl to have related Menu under Ms Windows)

Since then, to have, for example, an ï, type
1. Compose key (and release it)
2. " (and release)
3. i (and release)

To have é : Compose, ', e
to have è : `, e
to have ç : Compose, ,, c
to have œ : Compose, o, e
To have ø (not French but can be useful) : Compose, /, o
To have ¡ : Compose, !, !
To have ê : Compose, >, e
To have ě (difficult) : Compose, <, e
Etc.

That is like a spaghetti plate. Difficult to know it all...

Otherwise you can execute charmap and copy/paste characters.

Bon courage pour apprendre le français !

Benoit

Some other combinations are also useful :
« : <, <
» : >, >
€ : =, e
¥ : =, y
ů : *, u
å : *, a
ķ : ,, k
® : O, R
× : x, x
÷ : -, :
­± : +, -
ñ : ~, n
Etc.

#10 Le 26/02/2006, à 11:05

pabix

Re : How to input French accented letters? HELP!

It may depend of the Input Method. Try right-click, Input-Methods, it should be Default, X input method, Cedilla... I don't know more.
Benoit


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#11 Le 26/02/2006, à 11:27

jrev

Re : How to input French accented letters? HELP!

if you want to use both the french and english language, this is what I am doing :
1  you need a french keyboard
2   you have to install ubuntu in french that's to say you type french instead of english then french keyboard & so on when you are busy with the install procedure
and that's all ...
you can keep all your applications in english but at least you can type in french when you want
the only problem is when you want tu use both spellchecks on different pages ...
hope that helps ...
and good luck with your french, it takes some time to be fluent, but as you can see, many of us can speak a few words in english and we are glad if you make a little effort to get some pratice with our national language
smile

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#12 Le 26/02/2006, à 12:30

JasonLI

Re : How to input French accented letters? HELP!

Salut~~

Je vous remercie, vous tous!:D

J'ai essayé de changer l'input méthode dans gedit. The setting was "X input method", under which the french input sucked, and I changed it to Default, and then everything became OK!

I can use both the compose key or the "simulated" Fra keyboard to type French in gedit now. However, one of my remaining concerns is that I still can't change the input method in openoffice. In gedit, a right-click will bring up a menu leading to the setting of input method, but not in openoffice. I noticed that by default, when I open a new gedit window, the input method is set to "X input method" and I have to change it to "Default". I guess the default settings in my computer is in fact "X input method", instead of the real "Default" setting.

What's more, I am using SCIM for inputting Chinese, which is my native language, and you have to use that under the "X input method". So, the situation is a little bit complicated, since if I disable X input method, Chinese input is disabled at the mean time.

I think this is quite annoying, and hardly there would be a perfect solution for me. Anyway, merci beaucoup!
I will also ask about this problem in the English forum. Thank you all!

Jason

#13 Le 26/02/2006, à 12:42

Skippy le Grand Gourou

Re : How to input French accented letters? HELP!

Il y a un autre moyen très simple de basculer entre clavier US et clavier FR :

setxkbmap us
setxkbmap fr

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#14 Le 27/02/2006, à 11:50

jrev

Re : How to input French accented letters? HELP!

le clavier français écrit aussi bien en anglais qu'en français, donc pas besoin de changer  de clavier à chaque changement de langue si l'on a un clavier français. Il faut par contre avoir l'habitude de  taper en français et en chinois
Pour le clavier chinois il serait intéressant de savoir comment faire une fois le clavier changé...
cool


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