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moko138

[Résolu] Formulaire PDF officiel qui ne s'ouvre pas

Bonjour,
Un ami, qui utilise 12.04 comme moi, me signale et me donne copie d'un formulaire Cerfa :
evince, xournal, libreoffice, gimp et xpdf ne parviennent pas à afficher autre chose que

Please wait...
If this message is not eventually replaced by the proper contents of the document, your PDF viewer may not be able to display this type of document.
You can upgrade to the latest version of Adobe Reader for Windows®, Mac, or Linux® by visiting http://www.adobe.com/go/reader_download.
For more assistance with Adobe Reader visit http://www.adobe.com/go/acrreader.

  Propriétés :

Nom du fichier : 	XXX.pdf
Taille du fichier : 	1,... Mo (1 ... ... octets)
Titre : 	X
Auteur : 	Y	
Sujet : 	-
Mots-clés : 	-
Date de création : 	99/9/2014 à 
Modifié le : 	99/10/2014 à 
Créé par : 	Adobe LiveCycle Designer ES 9.0
Outil de conversion PDF : 	Adobe LiveCycle Designer ES 9.0
Version PDF : 	1.6
Nombre de pages : 	1

Firefox ajoute :

Ce document PDF contient des formulaires.

Par ailleurs :

~$ xpdf
Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct
Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-courier-medium-r-normal--12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct
Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-times-bold-i-normal--20-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct
Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-times-medium-r-normal--16-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1" to type FontStruct
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
:~$

La Doc (https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/pdf#cadre_d_u … isponibles) :

Adobe Reader © : le visionneur de PDF d'Adobe ® (avec plugin pour Firefox). Ce logiciel propriétaire reste cependant indispensable à ce jour pour lire correctement les commentaires, annotations et les formulaire XFA [=XML Forms Architecture]

Mais, contradictoirement, la Doc https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/acroread dit aussi :

Notes importantes sur le nouveau format XFA propriétaire
  L'équipe rédactionnelle tient à insister sur le fait que, contrairement à plusieurs commentaires sur les forums et l'idée largement répandue dans le monde Linux:
il est effectivement possible - en natif - de visualiser, remplir, imprimer et sauvegarder des formulaires XFA certifiés CERFA sous Linux comme il est d'ailleurs mentionné dans les formulaires CERFA de l'Administration.

Questions :
1)  L'administration française distribue donc encore des formulaires qu'on ne lit pas sans un logiciel privateur américain ???

2)  N'y a-t-il vraiment pas d'alternative libre à ce jour ?

Dernière modification par moko138 (Le 13/10/2014, à 15:41)

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yann_001

Re : [Résolu] Formulaire PDF officiel qui ne s'ouvre pas

Bonjour moko.

1)  L'administration française distribue donc encore des formulaires qu'on ne lit pas sans un logiciel privateur américain ???

Oui. Il a même certains services administratif qui ne sont même pas capables d'ajouter l’extension .pdf
Ce qui fait des personnes n'ayant pas de connaissance en informatique, ne peuvent lire le fichier.

Soit disant que ça couterait trop cher de former toutes les personnes de l'administration aux technologies alternatives.
Ce ne sont pas les fonctionnaires qui sont contre mais l'administration elle-même.

Tu peux essayer d'ouvrir le PDF avec MasterPDFEditor qui fonctionne sur les systèmes GNU/Linux.

Compte anonymisé

Re : [Résolu] Formulaire PDF officiel qui ne s'ouvre pas

Merci yann_001,

Je viens de le charger, je vais regarder ça dès que j'aurai du temps

Pour ce qui est du reste, sans attendre l'administration, qu'est-ce qui empêche une personne de se familiariser avec leur ordinateur

Se cacher derrière l'administration qui ne veut pas c'est un peu facile, on trouve des tas de personnes super sympa sur beaucoup de forums pour expliquer les choses que ce soit sur comment ça marche, télécharger.com, hardware.fr, zebulon.fr, ubuntu.fr....

Une simple entrée sur la barre Google et on trouve beaucoup de réponses à ses questions sur ses différents sites internet, c'est pas si compliqué que ça...

Dernière modification par NéoUbuntonien (Le 13/10/2014, à 13:10)

yann_001

Re : [Résolu] Formulaire PDF officiel qui ne s'ouvre pas

Bonjour NéoUbuntonien.

Pour ce qui est du reste, sans attendre l'administration, qu'est-ce qui empêche une personne de se familiariser avec leur ordinateur.

On ne peut pas forcer tout le monde à s'intéresser à l’informatique.
Il a déjà fallu presque 80 ans pour que  presque tout le monde ait le téléphone alors pour l'informatique et que les gens s'y intéressent vraiment ça risque d’être long.

Dernière modification par yann_001 (Le 13/10/2014, à 13:19)

moko138

Re : [Résolu] Formulaire PDF officiel qui ne s'ouvre pas

Merci yann mais je viens d'installer master-pdf-editor, non sans grimacer puisque ce n'est pas libre, et ce logiciel m'a affiché une superbe page blanche (et a refusé de se mettre en français).
  Purgé dans la foulée.

Je suis en train d'installer temporairement le deb privateur d'Adobe, pour voir, mais j'aimerais trouver une solution libre pour mon ami, néophyte, j'avais oublié de le préciser.

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inbox

Re : [Résolu] Formulaire PDF officiel qui ne s'ouvre pas

Salut,

Je ne vais pas proposer une solution directe, mais un contournement possible. Dans certain cas (tous ?), il est possible de trouver le même document Cerfa sans formulaire. Dans ce cas, il est possible de l'ouvrir avec Evince et de l'imprimer (exemple).

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gl38

Re : [Résolu] Formulaire PDF officiel qui ne s'ouvre pas

Je n'arrive pas à ouvrir par exemple une déclaration de cession d'un véhicule avec autre chose qu'acroread qui marche tout à fait bien... Tous mes autres essais me renvoient un message (en anglais) qui me dit que je ferais mieux d’installer Adobe reader.
Cordialement,
Guy

yann_001

Re : [Résolu] Formulaire PDF officiel qui ne s'ouvre pas

Dans un topic j'ai dit de Adobe pouvait verrouiller ses documents mais bon comme on m'a pris pour un con et que cela était hors sujet j'ai supprimé mes messages.

inbox

Re : [Résolu] Formulaire PDF officiel qui ne s'ouvre pas

@Gl38,

Il faut utiliser ce lien.

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gl38

Re : [Résolu] Formulaire PDF officiel qui ne s'ouvre pas

Merci.
Avec le master-pdf-editor signalé plus haut, ça marche, mais est-ce que le programme est libre ?
Avec xournal, qui est dans les dépôts, ça marche aussi.
Dans les 2 cas j'ai des difficultés à écrire sur la ligne, ce qui n'est pas le cas avec acroread.
Cordialement,
Guy

moko138

Re : [Résolu] Formulaire PDF officiel qui ne s'ouvre pas

1) Solution propriétaire : j'ai suivi la Doc pour installer acroread.
Il faut accepter la licence d'adobe (22 ko, 3.600 mots ! C'est vraiment fait pour qu'on ne la lise pas ou qu'on la survole ! Je la copie ici in extenso) :

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Reader_Player_AIR_WWEULA-en_US-20080204_1313 

  Je conseille de NE PAS faire de ce lecteur le lecteur par défaut (pour les néophytes : utiliser la touche Tabulation pour passer de "oui" à "non" au moment de le boîte de choix.)
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2) Solution libre :
  Votre deuxième série de réponses m'étant parvenue, elle m'a donné l'idée de taper :
télécharger "cerfa xxxxx 03"
Bingo !
J'ai obtenu le même formulaire mais en version non éditable.
Et plus de moitié plus léger !
evince et libreoffice l'ouvrent facilement.
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  Ce qui est perfectible, c'est que ce sont les sites
service-public.fr et modernisation.gouv.fr qui proposent encore uniquement la version privatrice.

  Heureusement que les moteurs de recherche permettent de trouver la version accessible des formulaires !
  Merci de vos participations éclairantes ! 

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JoshGrant

Re : [Résolu] Formulaire PDF officiel qui ne s'ouvre pas

Bonjour,
J'ai le même problème que vous!
Je n'arrive pas à ouvrir certain pdf avec les mêmes messages en anglais: "please wait..."
Sur les liens que vous mettez plus haut, comme adobe reader, il est marqué:

20141213 : Adobe ne fournit plus ce logiciel pour Linux. Les versions présentées ci-dessous sont obsolètes, présentent des risques de sécurité, et risquent de ne pas fonctionner du tout.

Est ce que quelqu'un a trouvé une solution à ce problème?
Pour ma part, il s'agit de document officiel concernant une demande de visa.
Merci

gl38

Re : [Résolu] Formulaire PDF officiel qui ne s'ouvre pas

As-tu essayé avec cette page ?
Cordialement,
Guy

moko138

Re : [Résolu] Formulaire PDF officiel qui ne s'ouvre pas

Merci à gl38 d'avoir actualisé la solution "adobe".

Est ce que quelqu'un a trouvé une solution à ce problème?

Si tu veux bien lire le fil, tu trouveras une solution libre et au moins une solution privatrice.

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Rufus T. Firefly

Re : [Résolu] Formulaire PDF officiel qui ne s'ouvre pas

Salut,

En général okular les lit sans problème. Mais c'est du kde et donc l'install d'okular entraîne celle de pas mal de paquets kde...

Mais il faudrait un lien vers le pdf qui ne s'ouvre pas, pour vérifier...

Dernière modification par Rufus T. Firefly (Le 14/05/2015, à 22:00)

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La provocation est une façon de remettre la réalité sur ses pieds. (Bertolt Brecht)
Il n'y a pas de route royale pour la science et ceux-là seulement ont chance d'arriver à ses sommets lumineux qui ne craignent pas de se fatiguer à gravir ses sentiers escarpés. (Karl Marx)
Il est devenu plus facile de penser la fin du monde que la fin du capitalisme

JoshGrant

Re : [Résolu] Formulaire PDF officiel qui ne s'ouvre pas

Ok merci,
Je vais regarder ca ce soir!

moko138

Re : [Résolu] Formulaire PDF officiel qui ne s'ouvre pas

En attendant, s'il s'agit d'un cerfa, peut-être pourrais-tu donner son numéro ?

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alca94

Re : [Résolu] Formulaire PDF officiel qui ne s'ouvre pas

Bonjour
On peut toujours installer "Adobe" si rien d'autres ne fonctionne pour les "CERFA"
http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.ph … #p18252211
voir ègalement le post 7 pour la version en français

Dernière modification par alca94 (Le 16/05/2015, à 17:23)

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POUR METTRE LES RETOURS DU "TERMINAL"  voir les explications sur ce post
https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.p … #p17345641

remp

Re : [Résolu] Formulaire PDF officiel qui ne s'ouvre pas

Bonjour
On peut toujours installer "Adobe" si rien d'autres ne fonctionne pour les "CERFA"
http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.ph … #p18252211
voir ègalement le post 7 pour la version en français

+1
Personellement j'ai aidé un ami  étranger à remplir des documents  sur le site officiel du Canada qui n'acceptait que adobe reader
Eh bien je ne l'ai installé que pour cette procédure  et ensuite désisntallé  ...
Il y a des môments où  on ne se pose pas de questions métaphysiques ou existentielles

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JoshGrant

Re : [Résolu] Formulaire PDF officiel qui ne s'ouvre pas

Salut,

En général okular les lit sans problème. Mais c'est du kde et donc l'install d'okular entraîne celle de pas mal de paquets kde...

Mais il faudrait un lien vers le pdf qui ne s'ouvre pas, pour vérifier...

Voila le lien qui ne s'ouvre pas:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/francais/pdf/trousses/form/IMM1295F.PDF

Rufus T. Firefly

Re : [Résolu] Formulaire PDF officiel qui ne s'ouvre pas

Pas de chance ! Avec okular (debian jessie) :

Ce document utilise des formulaires « XFA » qui ne sont pas encore pris en charge.

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La provocation est une façon de remettre la réalité sur ses pieds. (Bertolt Brecht)
Il n'y a pas de route royale pour la science et ceux-là seulement ont chance d'arriver à ses sommets lumineux qui ne craignent pas de se fatiguer à gravir ses sentiers escarpés. (Karl Marx)
Il est devenu plus facile de penser la fin du monde que la fin du capitalisme

JoshGrant

Re : [Résolu] Formulaire PDF officiel qui ne s'ouvre pas

Bonjour
On peut toujours installer "Adobe" si rien d'autres ne fonctionne pour les "CERFA"
http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.ph … #p18252211
voir ègalement le post 7 pour la version en français

Cette solution à l'air bien mais mon ordi tourne en 32 bits.
Sinon j'ai télécharger okular mais rien à faire!

JoshGrant

Re : [Résolu] Formulaire PDF officiel qui ne s'ouvre pas

Pas de chance ! Avec okular (debian jessie) :

Ce document utilise des formulaires « XFA » qui ne sont pas encore pris en charge.

ok tampis!
J'essai d'installer adobe avec ce lienmais pour l'instant, ca coince...

gl38

Re : [Résolu] Formulaire PDF officiel qui ne s'ouvre pas

Le deb est en 32 bits, c'est donc plus simple : il n'y a qu'à installer le paquet.
Et ça ouvre le pdf en question.
Cordialement,
Guy

bishop

Re : [Résolu] Formulaire PDF officiel qui ne s'ouvre pas

Salut !

Bonjour
On peut toujours installer "Adobe" si rien d'autres ne fonctionne pour les "CERFA"
http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.ph … #p18252211
voir ègalement le post 7 pour la version en français

Cette solution à l'air bien mais mon ordi tourne en 32 bits.
Sinon j'ai télécharger okular mais rien à faire!

Le deb est en 32 bits, c'est donc plus simple : il n'y a qu'à installer le paquet.
Et ça ouvre le pdf en question.
Cordialement,
Guy

1) Et s'il y a un problème pour l'installation des dépendances tu peux toujours essayer :

sudo apt-get install libatk1.0-0 libfontconfig1 libfreetype6 libgcc1 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1 libglib2.0-0 libglu1-mesa libglu1 libgtk2.0-0 libidn11 libpango1.0-0 libssl0.9.8 libstdc++6 libx11-6 libxext6 libxml2 libxt6 zlib1g lsb-release debconf libnss3-1d libnspr4-0d lib32nss-mdns libnss-mdns libxml2 libxslt1.1

Ce sont, en grande partie, les dépendances requises pour le paquet acroread (fichier control).

2) Puis tu installes Adobe :

cd && wget -q https://launchpad.net/~abartravail/+archive/ubuntu/pdfutils/+files/acroread-fra_9.4.2-0natty1~abw_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i acroread-fra_9.4.2-0natty1~abw_i386.deb && sudo apt-get install -f

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