Detction SSD interne/externe

Billpastresgates · Le 22/02/2022, à 15:13

Bonjour tout le monde,

J'ai regardé pas mal de discussions mais je n'ai pas trouvé de réponse probante.
J'ai récupéré un SSD 1 To Samsung (870 QVO) que j'aurais aimé utiliser en stockage externe.
J'ai donc acheté un adaptateur pour le SSD (incluant Linux)
https://ibb.co/tQXTvd6

Le hic, c'est que le SSD n'est pas détecté

$ lsusb
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0bc2:ab13 Seagate RSS LLC OneTouch SSD
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 8087:0a2b Intel Corp. 
Bus 001 Device 006: ID 1a2c:0e24 China Resource Semico Co., Ltd 
Bus 001 Device 008: ID 0fce:01da Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB 
Bus 001 Device 005: ID 1a40:0101 Terminus Technology Inc. Hub
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 1bcf:0053 Sunplus Innovation Technology Inc. 
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 1a40:0101 Terminus Technology Inc. Hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

Et je ne le vois pas sur Gparted non plus.

Quelqu'un aurait une idée?

inbox · Le 22/02/2022, à 15:37

Salut,

Branche ton disque externe, attend 10 secondes et passe la commande suivante :

sudo dmesg | tail -n100

A+

Billpastresgates · Le 22/02/2022, à 15:42

Salut,
Voilà

sudo dmesg | tail -n100
[25746.426331] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25750.666229] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25755.086199] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25759.161941] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25763.406087] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25767.497954] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25771.733820] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25775.813718] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25780.041923] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25784.137785] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25788.365683] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25792.441425] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25796.673368] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25800.777396] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25805.013282] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25809.441214] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25813.541160] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25817.773170] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25822.188936] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25826.273099] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25831.020638] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25835.108698] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25839.536492] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25843.772491] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25847.852641] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25852.084386] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25856.172264] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25860.392440] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25864.476198] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25868.692131] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25872.767997] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25876.987968] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25881.403920] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25885.487797] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25889.719767] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25894.127534] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25898.211702] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25902.439695] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25906.515491] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25910.743363] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25914.831412] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25919.235099] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25923.467325] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25928.383063] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25932.459096] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25936.866945] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25941.106731] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25945.198729] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25949.418700] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25953.502479] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25957.726579] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25961.822458] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25966.062530] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25970.158141] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25974.398127] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25978.486026] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25982.722076] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25986.806144] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25991.053895] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25995.141742] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[25999.389610] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[26003.481542] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[26007.721589] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[26011.805710] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[26016.033472] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[26020.449569] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[26024.525440] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[26028.753379] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[26032.833187] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[26037.061063] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[26041.477215] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[26045.557134] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[26049.773044] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[26053.848924] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[26058.076843] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[26062.160650] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[26066.404419] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[26070.492347] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[26074.728274] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[26078.820246] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[26083.056151] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[26087.148044] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[26091.379954] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[27555.150022] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[27559.230129] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[27563.457857] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[27567.541902] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[27571.773922] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[27575.849874] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[27580.065701] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[27584.141599] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[27588.357368] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[27592.433339] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[27596.661215] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[27600.733140] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[27604.957412] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[27609.037243] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[27613.273036] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[27617.349170] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[27621.577089] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?

Qid · Le 22/02/2022, à 15:50

Billpastresgates a écrit :

sudo dmesg | tail -n100
[25746.426331] usb usb2-port1: Cannot enable. Maybe the USB cable is bad?

donc si l'appareil est bien vu :
un lsusb seul ne sert a rien... il l'aurait fallu avec et sans le périph branché et donc on aurait bien vu une différence...
après le reste du problème est clair : le cable usb présent ne suffit pas pour alimenter le disque dur branché dessus...
la seule option pour palier à ce souci aurait été le cable usb en Y mais là le cable présent semble non amovible...
après c'est de l'usb3 : est-il bien branché dans une prise qui elle aussi est usb3 ?

Billpastresgates · Le 22/02/2022, à 15:53

Salut
Oui, il est branché sur un port en façade et non sur un hub

Qid · Le 22/02/2022, à 16:00

Billpastresgates a écrit :

Oui, il est branché sur un port en façade et non sur un hub

ou pas : par définition les prises en façade ne sont qu'indirectement soudées à la carte mère :
il y a un cable intermédiaire entre les 2... donc pour moi ça sera toujours d'une fiabilité moindre :
dans la mesure du possible il vaut toujours mieux se brancher derrière...

inbox · Le 22/02/2022, à 16:04

Je pense que ton câble nécessite un pilote qui n'existe pas pour Linux. Probablement un câble ne fonctionnant qu'avec Windows et/ou Pomme.

Le plus simple, serait donc de mettre ce disque Sata dans un boîtier externe (comportant un connecteur Sata interne) et de brancher ton boîtier en USB.

Qid · Le 22/02/2022, à 16:12

inbox a écrit :

Je pense que ton câble nécessite un pilote qui n'existe pas pour Linux. Probablement un câble ne fonctionnant qu'avec Windows et/ou Pomme.

il a pourtant dit :

Billpastresgates a écrit :

J'ai donc acheté un adaptateur pour le SSD (incluant Linux)

cela-dit je te l'accorde pour un achat wish (c'est une boutade à prendre au second degré) ça ne veut absolument rien dire

inbox · Le 22/02/2022, à 16:14

Comme on ne connaît pas le modèle du câble, il n'est pas possible de chercher s'il y a un pilote disponible.

Billpastresgates · Le 22/02/2022, à 16:19

Merci pour vos retours

Effectivement, sur le câble, il y a un point d'alimentation 12 v. Je n'y avais pas fait attention car il est similaire au 1er câble que j'avais repéré mais pas prévu pour Linux mais sans alim en plus.
J'ai essayé au cas où avec un câble d'alimentation 12 v et prise mâle correspondante (qui ne tente rien...) mais ça ne change rien.
Va falloir passer par un boitier je pense.
Fait ch...
Merci pour votre patience.

Qid · Le 22/02/2022, à 16:23

Billpastresgates a écrit :

Va falloir passer par un boitier je pense.
Fait ch...

Tu le sauras maintenant :
c'est souvent cette solution là la meilleure...

inbox · Le 22/02/2022, à 16:30

À l'avenir, évite d'acheter sur Wish.

Billpastresgates · Le 22/02/2022, à 16:36

Je n'achète jamais sur Wish!

inbox · Le 22/02/2022, à 16:40

J'ai mal cru, alors.

Qid · Le 22/02/2022, à 16:42

Billpastresgates a écrit :

Je n'achète jamais sur Wish!

sauf que si tu ne te méfies pas amazone peut même parfois être pire...
(mais bon on va encore virer en hors sujet si on continu ce débat ici)

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